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		<title>Comment on When will I be famous? by Jeff Damron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Damron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I posted your name as one of my influences in a discussion on flickr (http://www.flickr.com/groups/betterinblackandwhite/discuss/72157624544174602/), so I suspect fame will follow quickly for you.

Seriously, though, I have been a fan since I discovered your Home Photography book a few years ago, and enjoyed all of your appearances in Black and White Photography.  I have absolutely no first hand experience at anything that would lead to a genuinely knowledgeable answer to your question.  As an observation, it has seemed to me that photographers who write about the craft of photography generally aren&#039;t gallery favorites. I don&#039;t know why - maybe they don&#039;t like it that some of the mysterious aura of the magical &quot;silver gelatin&quot; print is being revealed as essentially an everyday black and white picture.  Or maybe I&#039;m wrong entirely.  I tend to follow those that write &quot;how to&quot; and &quot;why to&quot; books and articles more than &quot;artists&quot; represented by galleries.  

Maybe it&#039;s just because I would like to keep reading your words, but I would suggest that you continue to write on a world-wide basis and start an online gallery through your website to sell prints.  You could sell then for 1/2 what a gallery would charge and still make the same amount from each print - probably selling more of them in the long run because of the lower price.  I know online galleries are notorious for not making money, but I suspect that part of the problem is that no one has heard of many of the &quot;artists&quot; who try.  You, on the other hand, have already overcome that and have name recognition among many people who appreciate your talent and your craftsmanship.   Just some advice that is probably worth exactly what you have paid for it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I posted your name as one of my influences in a discussion on flickr (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/betterinblackandwhite/discuss/72157624544174602/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/groups/betterinblackandwhite/discuss/72157624544174602/</a>), so I suspect fame will follow quickly for you.</p>
<p>Seriously, though, I have been a fan since I discovered your Home Photography book a few years ago, and enjoyed all of your appearances in Black and White Photography.  I have absolutely no first hand experience at anything that would lead to a genuinely knowledgeable answer to your question.  As an observation, it has seemed to me that photographers who write about the craft of photography generally aren&#8217;t gallery favorites. I don&#8217;t know why &#8211; maybe they don&#8217;t like it that some of the mysterious aura of the magical &#8220;silver gelatin&#8221; print is being revealed as essentially an everyday black and white picture.  Or maybe I&#8217;m wrong entirely.  I tend to follow those that write &#8220;how to&#8221; and &#8220;why to&#8221; books and articles more than &#8220;artists&#8221; represented by galleries.  </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just because I would like to keep reading your words, but I would suggest that you continue to write on a world-wide basis and start an online gallery through your website to sell prints.  You could sell then for 1/2 what a gallery would charge and still make the same amount from each print &#8211; probably selling more of them in the long run because of the lower price.  I know online galleries are notorious for not making money, but I suspect that part of the problem is that no one has heard of many of the &#8220;artists&#8221; who try.  You, on the other hand, have already overcome that and have name recognition among many people who appreciate your talent and your craftsmanship.   Just some advice that is probably worth exactly what you have paid for it. <img src='http://www.thewebdarkroom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on When will I be famous? by Carl Radford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Radford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who do you admire that is successful - talk to them if possible.  I wish I could help but as I already look up to you I am not sure how to help.  I do try to spread the word and will continue to do so.  It was your book Home Photography that made me aware of you - another quality book might help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who do you admire that is successful &#8211; talk to them if possible.  I wish I could help but as I already look up to you I am not sure how to help.  I do try to spread the word and will continue to do so.  It was your book Home Photography that made me aware of you &#8211; another quality book might help.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When will I be famous? by sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your extensive and informed reply Mark. Useful advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your extensive and informed reply Mark. Useful advice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When will I be famous? by mark lacey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark lacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience galleries boost your ego but not your wallet or recognition, also it is a  surprising fact that photographers rarely seem to buy photography!  Publishing in magazines brings modest financial rewards but a surprising degree of recognition from other photographers. My experience of having illustrated articles published and the odd front cover in Australian magazines was that at least in this country my profile seemed to go up immensly, such that my next move is to get work published in other magazines, particularly in the UK and USA. After all I only know your name from the UK Black and White magazine!
 My other suggestion is to enter every serious competition going, over here we have several portrait competitions run by state and regional galleries with prizes in the region of A$10-30,000, and whilst you may not win, the short listed entries, which I have achieved several times, still get a lot of exposure in the media. It also helps that these days entering silver prints from large format negs as I now do has a certain novelty value and you tend to stand out from all the photoshopped wannabees!.
Hope this helps, Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience galleries boost your ego but not your wallet or recognition, also it is a  surprising fact that photographers rarely seem to buy photography!  Publishing in magazines brings modest financial rewards but a surprising degree of recognition from other photographers. My experience of having illustrated articles published and the odd front cover in Australian magazines was that at least in this country my profile seemed to go up immensly, such that my next move is to get work published in other magazines, particularly in the UK and USA. After all I only know your name from the UK Black and White magazine!<br />
 My other suggestion is to enter every serious competition going, over here we have several portrait competitions run by state and regional galleries with prizes in the region of A$10-30,000, and whilst you may not win, the short listed entries, which I have achieved several times, still get a lot of exposure in the media. It also helps that these days entering silver prints from large format negs as I now do has a certain novelty value and you tend to stand out from all the photoshopped wannabees!.<br />
Hope this helps, Mark</p>
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		<title>Comment on When will I be famous? by Les Dix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les Dix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many different circles within photography I guess it depends on which one you want to be recognised in. The hardest one  is probably that of contemporary art photography. The key here seems to be to devote yourself to some big project. I went to a talk by Thomas Joshua Cooper- who is by any definition &#039;recognised&#039; in the art photography world. He has been (literally) travelling to the ends of the earth to take minimalist lanscapes of the extremities of the atlantic basin with his antique plate camera over many years. I like his images but their significance lies as much in the story behind them (in my opinion). I guess having a big idea behind your photography helps to get it recognised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many different circles within photography I guess it depends on which one you want to be recognised in. The hardest one  is probably that of contemporary art photography. The key here seems to be to devote yourself to some big project. I went to a talk by Thomas Joshua Cooper- who is by any definition &#8216;recognised&#8217; in the art photography world. He has been (literally) travelling to the ends of the earth to take minimalist lanscapes of the extremities of the atlantic basin with his antique plate camera over many years. I like his images but their significance lies as much in the story behind them (in my opinion). I guess having a big idea behind your photography helps to get it recognised.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When will I be famous? by sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recognition rather than fame I think. Perhaps I&#039;ve already got that. And a bit of fortune would be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recognition rather than fame I think. Perhaps I&#8217;ve already got that. And a bit of fortune would be nice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When will I be famous? by Wiesmier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiesmier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it fame you are after, or fortune?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it fame you are after, or fortune?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Long lasting by Chris Finch</title>
		<link>http://www.thewebdarkroom.com/?p=494&#038;cpage=1#comment-1092</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Finch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy,

One suggestion I might have is to ask for a massive coffin when you pass on, 
and as to be buried with all the images that you didn&#039;t manage to pass on to
a reliable source before you die... slightly eccentric of an idea perhaps :P.

The only thing I could think of seriously, is trying to either sell them or give them
to galleries, collectors, young (trust worthy) photographers, whom you know will
take good care of them and will make the best use for them in your name. 

It is worth noting that a lot of the most well recognized and admired photographic
practitioners have all become acclaimed with their work after they died, which is 
quite sad when you think about it. Though even then, it shows that if your work is 
good enough and if you are a lucky dearly departed, then someone will discover your
work and it will become highly acclaimed. Usually it does so because of a recurring element with the work that is unique to itself, a recipe instigated only by the skills,
craft and the uniqueness of the photographer him/herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy,</p>
<p>One suggestion I might have is to ask for a massive coffin when you pass on,<br />
and as to be buried with all the images that you didn&#8217;t manage to pass on to<br />
a reliable source before you die&#8230; slightly eccentric of an idea perhaps <img src='http://www.thewebdarkroom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>The only thing I could think of seriously, is trying to either sell them or give them<br />
to galleries, collectors, young (trust worthy) photographers, whom you know will<br />
take good care of them and will make the best use for them in your name. </p>
<p>It is worth noting that a lot of the most well recognized and admired photographic<br />
practitioners have all become acclaimed with their work after they died, which is<br />
quite sad when you think about it. Though even then, it shows that if your work is<br />
good enough and if you are a lucky dearly departed, then someone will discover your<br />
work and it will become highly acclaimed. Usually it does so because of a recurring element with the work that is unique to itself, a recipe instigated only by the skills,<br />
craft and the uniqueness of the photographer him/herself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Long lasting by Richard Littlewood</title>
		<link>http://www.thewebdarkroom.com/?p=494&#038;cpage=1#comment-1066</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Littlewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fancy a joint back garden bonfire? 

Rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fancy a joint back garden bonfire? </p>
<p>Rich</p>
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		<title>Comment on Long lasting by Les Dix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les Dix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is where having your best work carefully presented in a series of portfolios or even  blurb books makes it easier to have it preserved for posterity. I think that  if all my work was a pile of loose prints and negatives  they would eventually end up in landfill. 

Les</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is where having your best work carefully presented in a series of portfolios or even  blurb books makes it easier to have it preserved for posterity. I think that  if all my work was a pile of loose prints and negatives  they would eventually end up in landfill. </p>
<p>Les</p>
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